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Interstate Vehicle Manufacturers (Reference Guide)

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:43 pm
by Fnork
Interstate fiction writers can use this list as a reference guide when selecting vehicles that will appear in their stories. This list includes all known Interstate vehicle manufacturers that have appeared in the various games and fiction. Specific vehicle models that did not appear in I'76 Original, I'76 Nitro, or I'82 have also been included.


INTERSTATE VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS LIST

FORMAT: Real Name = Interstate Name (Arranged Alphabetically)

Manufacturer
-Subsidiaries
----Models not appearing in I?76 or I?82


AUTOMOBILES

American Motor Corporation (AMC) = AMZ

Aston-Martin = Aaron-Marvin

BMW = VMW

Citroen = Charpenet

Cooper (MINI) = Lansell

DaimlerChrysler (DCX) = DornierChalmers (DCX), formerly Dover-Picard Corporation (DPC)
-Chrysler = Chalmers
----PT Cruiser = AC Strider
----Pacifica = Atlantis

-Dodge = Dover
----Dakota (pickup) = Carolina
----Magnum = Peacemaker
----Neon = Argon (also available from Plymouth/Picard)

-Mercedes Benz = Morgen-Bernz
----S-Class 560SLE = 560LSE
-Plymouth = Picard

Ferrari = Fiarello
----Enzo Ferrari = Ernesto Fiarello

Ford Motor Corporation (FMC) = Phaedra Motor Corporation (PMC)
-Ford = Phaedra
----Crown Victoria = Queen Elizabeth
----Capri = Napoli
----Escort = Consort (US), "Minder" Bodyguard (UK)
----Taurus = Matador

-Jaguar = Leopard
-Lincoln = Jefferson
-Mercury = Quicksilver
----Cougar = Catamount
----Marauder = Barbarian

-Shelby = Findley or Sanderson
-Volvo = Vikea

General Motors (GM) = Consolidated Motors (CM)
-Chevrolet (Chevy) = Courcheval (Courchy)
----Astro (van) = Cosmo
----Impala = Gazelle
----Malibu = Laguna

-Buick = Briscoe
----Century = Millennium
-GMC = CMC
----Denali = McKinley
-Pontiac = Potomac
----Aztek = Quetzlcoatl
-Oldsmobile = Ransom
-DeLorean Motor Company (DMC) = De Landau Company (DLC)
-Cadillac = Adirondac

Lamborghini = Brunetti

Nissan (Datsun) = Daisan
----Sentra = Sentry

Porsche = Messernacht
----944 Turbo = 499 Turbo

Renault = Reynard

Subaru = Mutsuraboshi
----Baja = Dakar
----Forester = Woodlander
----Impreze = Amazra
----Legacy = Heritage
----WRX = REx

-STi (Subaru Technica International) = MTi (Mutsuraboshi Technica International)

Toyota = Yamato
----MR2 = RM3

Trabant = Stein

Triumph = Victory

Volkswagon = Warendorf

Willys = Glenn


OTHER WHEELED VEHICLES

Harley-Davidson = Harvey-Danielson

Mack Truck = Moth Truck

Suzuki = Suzuka


AIRCRAFT

Cessna = Seneca
----172 "Cutlass" = 172 Scimitar

Lockheed = Lockhart
----P-38 Lightning = F-38 Tempest (also ?Reaper?)

Nakajima = Nagasaki
----Ki-43 ?OSCAR? = Ik-43 ?OSAKA?

Supermarine = Ultramarine
----Spitfire = Pitfighter

Misc.
----A-10 Warthog/Thunderbolt = G-10 Rhino
----B-24 Liberator = D-24 Emancipator
----F-4 Phantom = J-4 Ghost


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Naming Guidelines (Listed in order of importance)
1) It has to sound good.
2) It should contain some reference to the actual name.
3) It should be identifiable as the actual name without being too obvious.


Explanations:
1) Above all else, the name has to sound good. This is highly subjective, but generally speaking if it takes less than 5 seconds to create or just sounds cheesy, it?s probably not very good.
2) If possible, the Interstate version of the manufacturer or vehicle should make some reference to the actual name. It could be a name from the company?s history, a synonym, the same word in a different language, an anagram, or anything else you can come up with. Use your imagination (Google helps too).
3) You should be able to identify which actual name the Interstate name represents, but it shouldn?t be so similar that the average person won?t even notice the difference unless someone points it out. Switching only one or two letters in the name should be avoided (unless it meets Rules #1 and #2)


Ideally, all three rules can be met, but if they can?t remember that rule #1 is the most important, followed closely by rule #2. If the name sounds good and includes a clever reference, it doesn?t necessarily have to be recognizable outside of context.

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Feel free to come up with your own versions of other manufacturers and models. If they?re good enough, I?ll add them to this ?official? list.

Be sure to explain any hidden references used in the name.

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:53 am
by Ace English
Stein = Trabant.

I also took the liberty of inventing names for some British tin (don't think the stories I put them in have seen the light of day) and I'll offer them for suggestion:

Triumph (bikes and cars manufacturer) - Victory
Ford Capri- Phaedra Napoli
Ford Escort - Phaedra Bodyguard (a nod to the old X-pack mk2 from the opening credits of "Minder" TV fans)
I had another one for Ford Transit van, but I've forgotten. As I say, they're just suggestions as it stands.

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:41 pm
by Fnork
Trabant! I knew I'd heard that before, but just couldn't remember it.

Good stuff for the rest - I'll add them to the list

Uh

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:56 am
by Lightfoot
An Escort is a Bodyguard?

You're diluted...maybe a Consort or a Companion....perhaps a Hooker but definately not Bodyguard...

$0.02

Re: Interstate Vehicle Manufacturers (Reference Guide)

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:46 pm
by KIV 6051 [SH]
Fnork wrote:American Motor Company (AMC) = AMZ
It was actually American Motor Corporation. :wink:
----Taurus = Matador
AMC had a Matador, the more well known one was the Matador Coupe.
Something for the entry:
Nissan Sentra: (something) Sentry.

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:04 am
by Ace English
I know what you're saying, Mr Foot, and by all means it's just my idea, not set in stone. I would say, though, that the Escort (at least up until they put the name on a hairdresser's car in the early 80's) was never considered a lady-car. Escort, in this context, being "armed escort", not "lady of negotiable affection". :)

It's the first thing I thought of, and it seemed to fit the style of the car, plus the mention of the TV series (which featured a bumbling businessman and his bodyguard). The car was never used (maybe once) in the series, it was just in the opening montage, but everyone called X-pack Escorts the "Minder" after that. In that respect, "Minder" would be a good name, but that's too much of a British in-joke I think.

Capri is an island near Napoli, so that one was fairly easy. Alternative is "WishIwasamustang" :)

Re: Interstate Vehicle Manufacturers (Reference Guide)

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:51 am
by Fnork
KIV 6051 [SH] wrote: It was actually American Motor Corporation. :wink:
fixed now - thanks

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Instead of calling the Escort a "Bodyguard", how about "Sentinel" or even "Sentry" (which KIV actually suggested for the Nissan Sentra)?

Although, "Minder" isn't bad either since that would count as a vague reference to the original name...

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:00 am
by HMMurdock_00
Nice list, I only have one complaint. Oldsmobile, never made a car that looked like the ransom. Also Ransom Marshall I have always taken to mean GTO Judge, note the strong relation between Marshall and Judge.

But thats my opinion.

Also considering the name Mercury for the car came from the planet and the greek god, perhaps Mars would fit better. Another one would be Volkswagon= Wolfsburg, considering Volkswagon orginally was produced in Wolfsburg before and during WWII.

Again this is my opinion, good work though.

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:53 am
by Fnork
Marshall and Judge do fit together, but Ransom and Pontiac have no connection whatsoever. On the other hand, Oldsmobile was founded by a guy named Ransom Eli Olds so there is a rather strong connection - especially when you also consider that I'82 pretty solidly established Pontiac as Potomac.

Many of the cars in the game (I'76 at least) are combinations of several different models or model years - so consider the car a hybrid of the GTO and the 442 with a few other odds and ends thrown in. :)


RLF was the one that established Quicksilver for Mercury, and it does fit pretty well if you consider the metallurgical aspect of the name. The mythology route probably would have worked as well, although Hermes would have been a more appropriate name (the Greek equivalent to the Roman god) - but Hermes for a car name sounds a little funny. Quicksilver Catamount does have a nice ring to it.


Warendorf comes directly from the overgrown Beetle in I'76 Nitro.

Hmm...

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:07 am
by Lightfoot
I don't know about the UK version of the Escort but here in the good old USA they've always been MUCH close to a lady of questionable affections than a body guard...(metal) body bag, perhaps, but definitely not a body guard...

;)

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:22 am
by Grey Fox [FD]
Ah, but here's where it can get messy. The Escort that AE is referencing was a bad mofo. The Escort the LF is thinking of, is quite the piece of crap.

The "real" Ford (Cosworth?) Escorts, not the POS ones we got here in the USA, started back in 1968 (unlike the US which got ours starting in 1982?), and pretty much walked Ford into the WRC winning circle for the next 15-20 years in it's class. They're still winning here and there.

Unlike our anemic, 105bhp fwd econo-box USA version, the 'true' Escort had a fantastic setup; such as RWD/AWD (later versions were FWD/AWD), 250+bhp turbocharged engines, 60/40 weight distribution, sub 2600lb weight, etc...

This is a Mk I or really early Mk II Escort if memory serves me correct (1968-74 or 1975-80). Something like 1.8-2.0l engine with 205-250bhp.

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...and here's a more recent, WRC Escort (1993-98?). 300+bhp, AWD, and lots of expensive Cosworth goodies, like the 16v head. I know, this pic is of a toy. I couldn't find a suitable real life pic.

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I think since the whole Interstate series took place here in southwest USA, we should generally regard to it as something other than bodyguard (like Sentinel); since our Escort is far from that. However, I'm not against having the Euro Escort use the name bodyguard.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:34 pm
by HMMurdock_00
I see how Ransom and Oldsmobile can be tied, but if that is the case what would be the Marshall. Oldsmobile as far as I ever know never made a car the even resemble the Marshall not even close. If the first name wouldn't the Activision version of chevrolet be a Louis. What about Phaedra, or Adrirondac?

Also under GM/CM you forgot Buick. Not sure how you name that but the founders name is David Dunbar Buick. Also left off the list is Bentley, Rolls-Royce, Bugatti, Peugeot, Nash, Renault, Stutz, Willys....

Ok I may be taking it a bit far:P

I still not that keen on Olds being a Ransom, I guess I always pictured it being like Agedcar, or Youngscar.:)

still good work.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:09 pm
by Fnork
HMMurdock_00 wrote:I see how Ransom and Oldsmobile can be tied, but if that is the case what would be the Marshall. Oldsmobile as far as I ever know never made a car the even resemble the Marshall not even close. If the first name wouldn't the Activision version of chevrolet be a Louis. What about Phaedra, or Adrirondac?
You're certainly not wrong - what I'm actually suggesting is that the car is both an Oldsmobile and a GTO... essentially an Olds Judge. My guess is that when they were creating the new cars for Nitro they wanted the GTO and the 442, but for some reason they didn't or couldn't make two seperate cars (due to lack of resources, time, etc.). Instead of choosing one or the other, they compromised and made them both into a single car. Since they weren't using the real names anyways, they could get away with it.

Also under GM/CM you forgot Buick. Not sure how you name that but the founders name is David Dunbar Buick.
That's a big one that has eluded us so far, and it's especially frustrating since my "real life" car is a Millennium (AKA Century). Got any good suggestions? There's no help in the history of the brand, so I was thinking a similar sounding Scottish surname would be appropriate - AE could probably help with that, since there is an unusual concentration of Scottish people to his North. :)
Also left off the list is Bentley, Rolls-Royce, Bugatti, Peugeot, Nash, Renault, Stutz, Willys....
Got any good suggestions for those? I'd be happy to add them to the list.

Reynard would be a good one for Renault, and RLF would defintiely get a kick out of it. :)


Oh, I just realized that we already have Willys, and it was even in I'76 Orig -- the Glenn Bushmaster!

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:57 pm
by HMMurdock_00
Buick is a hard one, but Buick backed by the Briscoe Brothers, but then was later bought out by Billy Durant. I'm thinking Buick= Durant, its a possibility.

Rolls-Royce= Rich-Royal. From the saying Rolling in it(which you have to own one anyways) and Royal seems to fit with it. But i haven't thought of anything better.

still lack some names, im going throught this encyclopedia trying find something that sticks out.

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:52 am
by Ace English
Grey Fox, the top Escort pic is a mark 2, and is my favourite of all the marks, especially with those forest arches on. The one pictured is probably an RS1800 with the ford crossflow, rather than the pinto.

The toy pic is technically known as a "cozzer" :D And is the exact moment that the then current piece of tin rolling out of European Ford factories regained the right to the name "Escort", in my opinion.

The Escort I don't like* is the FWD version brought in the early 80's- Dan Ackroyd drove one in Dragnet if that's the American version Light is thinking of. Likewise the non-cozzer mk5/6 is gash, but the cozzer is a worthy owner of the Escort name.

*The one exception being Martin Schanke's XTrac AWD version that he rallycrossed and took up Pike's Peak, because it was fucking mental.

I'm happy with any name for the car in the interstate universe- it only exists in a story I haven't published, though Sentinel reminds me of the GTA FBI/mafia car.

For Cosworth, I took the name "Ducktin", that is because Cosworth is formed by the names of Costin and Duckworth, so it's a simple reversal. So a UK/European based engine specialist company with close ties to Phaedra, would be Ducktin.

There's an interesting point about the Lansell. As we know, this was the i82 lead programmer's surname, and probably works more as an analogy to Cooper, than it does to Austin. History fans should note that the Mini, was first released as the Morris / Austin Seven, which became the Austin/Morris Mini, then the British Leyland Mini (after the big rootes/mowog raping of the seventies), then Austin Rover, then Rover, before BMW, the owners of the brand, applied the label to their own nostalgia rocket.

Calling all Minis Coopers, is much like calling all Mustangs Shelbys, because the name comes from John Cooper, who was the official "tuner" for the Mini in its competition heyday. In that respect, and if we take Lansell as meaning Cooper, rather than Mini, then we have the opportunity to think of names for Austin/Morris. The mighty Allegro will no doubt feature in something I do at some point, so I'll be looking out for ideas :)